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As a result, the ‘traditional’ valuation of an advisory firm wasn’t really 2X revenue; it was 6-8X profits, and when advisory firms can run 25% to 30% profit margins, 7X profits at 28% margins came out to almost exactly 2X revenue. (In When it comes to technology firms, revenue valuation multiples are often much higher.
And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting. So I had some experience in Africa that was able to leverage for this role. That is not being reflected in valuations from a top down standpoint. But key valuations are necessary but not sufficient condition for an opportunity to be attractive.
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How firms can best leverage their internal data to improve the number of client referrals they receive. In 2021, elevated equity valuations and relatively low bond yields led the researchers to suggest 3.3% And while Buffett was naturally gifted in math, he was initially scared of public speaking.
And so I kind of leveraged that when I went to Morningstar because they’re very focused on quality, the whole concept of economic moats, but also about buying companies when they’re trading at a discount to intrinsic value. But there’s always gotta be some element of the valuation really being compelling.
I’m good at math and science and you know, I always had an idea what go into business, but I felt that electrical engineering would be a good foundation. You know, I, it always, I I see different numbers all the time, so it’s always kinda like, who’s math if you will? 00:02:16 [Speaker Changed] Me too.
He has a very interesting approach to thinking about market valuations and strategies and when to deploy capital, when to go with the crowd, when to lean against the crowd, and has amassed and excellent track record. Second part of our framework is valuation fundamental work. Well, that means valuations are probably too high.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. We built a company that was focused on valuation, initially, actually targeting corporate strategic planning departments.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. But I would say generally, there’s less leverage in the system.
You do the math and you’re like, “Okay, well, an advisor can handle about 100 clients, an associate advisor can help with some of those clients, you can leverage maybe an associate advisor with a couple of advisors, but there’s a capacity limit for each of the roles.” Is it at 1.5%? And then we have the 0% cap.
And I did the math, and I think at that point in time, roughly speaking, assets in ETS were roughly just 10 percent, 12 percent of assets in mutual funds and I was pretty convinced that that number was to increase significantly. I mean, I do think there is a market for leverage and inverse ETFs out there.
You know, people are comfortable, leverage builds. Now, we’re shifting to more international places like China, Europe, et cetera, that are really growing, and that valuations are cheaper. You know, the leverage in the system builds. How are we doing in literacy versus math versus science? Where are we?
But plenty of valuation measures, it has no applicability for price-to-sales. ASNESS: Well, first of all, I’m going to somewhat disappoint you saying we do not take very big bets on views like timing asset classes based on valuation. My mom was a math teacher so — RITHOLTZ: Okay. It can apply to earnings.
It’s that the, so that’s the core competency and it’s just leveraged into, if it’s a loan, if it’s a security backed by a loan, if it’s the actual estate itself. And I was always good at math and, and I had been writing code since I was in the sixth grade. So I had real support around Wall Street.
And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that. This is implicitly leverage. Leverage is a tool that accentuates both the good and the bad.
The transcript from this week’s, MiB: Howard Lindzon, Social Leverage , is below. Literally the first check-in to Robinhood, which went public in 2021 at about a $34 billion valuation. So with no further ado, my discussion with Social Leverage’s Howard Lindzon. HOWARD LINDZON, MANAGING PARTNER, SOCIAL LEVERAGE: Hello, Barry.
00:24:49 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk a little bit about valuation in the public markets. Does that valuation difference in the public markets extend to private markets as well? Does that valuation difference in the public markets extend to private markets as well? Hence the valuation gap.
RITHOLTZ: So here’s the question about 2020 and we could talk a little bit about the pandemic, when you have an event from outside the market, sort of feels less like the dot-coms and the valuation issue, and more like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, it’s totally outside of the system. They got a lot of leverage.
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