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I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. And big consumer and healthcare. Finance was the natural fit for GMO. Particularly, I got really lucky when I was in graduate school. So I was at Harvard.
He has a very interesting approach to thinking about market valuations and strategies and when to deploy capital, when to go with the crowd, when to lean against the crowd, and has amassed and excellent track record. Second part of our framework is valuation fundamental work. Well, that means valuations are probably too high.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. I didn’t know what any of these terms meant. We’ve seen a couple of these events now.
I got the sense that, so Churnin takes 51% for a fairly modest valuation, 10 or $15 million. 00:17:16 [Speaker Changed] And, and let’s be blunt and honest, Dave Portnoy is incredibly entertaining, even if that persona is an exaggeration of who he is, but no one wants him doing the payroll or the 00:17:30 [Speaker Changed] Healthcare.
And I did the math, and I think at that point in time, roughly speaking, assets in ETS were roughly just 10 percent, 12 percent of assets in mutual funds and I was pretty convinced that that number was to increase significantly. I remember telling myself, why would anyone invest in mutual funds when you can buy an ETF instead?
Now, we’re shifting to more international places like China, Europe, et cetera, that are really growing, and that valuations are cheaper. Healthcare, education, not hugely cyclical, not interest rate sensitive. How are we doing in literacy versus math versus science? Think about the incredible growth of U.S. Where are we?
RITHOLTZ: So hold the duration risk aside with those two, but just for an investor in treasuries, I know you’ve done the math before. If you’re giving up that 1% big fat yield in 2019, 2021, let’s say you give up three years of 1% and get zero, how does the math work over the subsequent couple of years?
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. So I found myself getting kind of bored with my math problem sets, and then I could shift to philosophy and then go back and forth. And one of the worst performing factors has been valuation. And I think that’s wrong because valuation does matter.
But thankfully, the next decade, things really accelerated in terms of the growth of the company and growth in the valuation, things like that. Take healthcare, the healthcare really is going to require systems level change to really revolutionize how we think about our health. The math never seems to work out.
Literally the first check-in to Robinhood, which went public in 2021 at about a $34 billion valuation. RITHOLTZ: He was the first (inaudible) in round B at the higher valuation. Is it about the valuation? Back then I was Wallstrip was like a 400K valuation. RITHOLTZ: Valuation didn’t make much of a difference.
But it allowed me to go into the healthcare vertical straight out of Stanford. 00:24:49 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk a little bit about valuation in the public markets. Does that valuation difference in the public markets extend to private markets as well? Hence the valuation gap. Taiwan semiconductor, yes.
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