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And really what we were missing was sort of a very simplified treasury, what we call treasury kind of payments bundle for companies to manage working capital, a simple digital platform for earlier stage companies and a venture debt capability. Speaking of, of entertainment. What’s keeping you entertained?
But there are so many tools at your disposal, and let alone how much duration you’re taking, how much interest, how much creditrisk you’re taking, illiquidity, et cetera. And how do you make the decision, I’m not comfortable with this creditrisk relative to the return it’s going to throw off?
And you had to take on significant duration risk and creditrisk just to earn a couple percentage points. And when you think about translating the S&P 500 PE to an implied equity risk premium by looking at the 10 year treasury yield, you’re 200 basis points below what it’s been for the last 10 years.
The challenge is unlike the S&P 500, hedge funds sit in a box that has underlying creditrisk from prime brokers. So the credit markets froze. So you go back a couple of years and you could say, “Well, what return is available buying a treasury?” It’s just entertainment.
So, 00:25:13 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk about that before we get to private credit. First time in decades, treasuries and investment grade corporates, it’s, it’s an attractive yield at five 5.5%. I’m not, I’m not really into fiction or, or entertaining reading. That’s an example.
So we have to think about creditrisk like everybody else. But at the end of the day, emerging markets risk is about credit culture, people, how do they behave in times of duress in the past, predict how they’re going to behave in the future. Treasury, the OFAC restrictions. RITHOLTZ: And Venezuela?
And up until that moment in time, we didn’t spend a lot of time on creditrisk in mortgages. We didn’t really have to model creditrisk because that was, that risk was taken by the agencies. But in these private labels, you had the, the market was taking the creditrisk.
And what I hear from a lot of people is, and I’ll hear it from the credit team significantly at the firm yield buyer, there’s a yield buyer, there’s a yield buyer, and there’s a threshold of yields. Well, if you only care about yield, just go buy treasuries. You have to get compensated for each risk.
So let’s talk a little bit about your experience at the US Treasury Department. 00:03:16 [Barry Ritholtz] So when we look at US treasuries, right, that they’re about 40% of the Bloomberg Barclays Ag, the largest set of holdings by far. One is that kind of broad kind of macro creditrisk.
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