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accurately comparable) industry benchmarks to compare themselves with, so that the fees they charge for the services they provide are in alignment with what they are actually worth. Just the math of an advisory firm only goes so far at the end of the day.” I could do the rough math on his firm. just to make the math easy.
And I told my, you know, you know, very pregnant wife at the time, you know, we didn’t have a lot of money that I was gonna leave this secure job. You know, I think of like a Mike Spies or at Sutter Hill, you know, a Martine Cado and Andreessen, you know, Gurley when he was at Benchmark. So here’s the math, Barry.
SEIDES: If the S&P is your benchmark, which it isn’t for these pools of capital. RITHOLTZ: What should be their benchmark? So the proper benchmark for those pools has to look a little bit like the underlying assets they’re investing in. So what do you use for a benchmark? 14, 15% a year? RITHOLTZ: Right.
And I’d say part of it is reinforced by the fact that we do have policies that prohibit our employees from investing in individual securities because we want their time to be devoted to making the right decisions for our clients and they can benefit from that as a client. So what do you use as a benchmark for the large cap fund?
But when you look at emerging markets and when you look at value, the opportunity for alpha is much, much greater than it is in traditional large cap growth stocks in the US And a lot of managers in that space actually beat their benchmark. And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting.
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I did an internship in the summer at Citibank Securities in fixed income sales and trading. So you think back 30 years, there was so many people who were focused on individual security selection, picking individual stocks. They create the benchmark. RITHOLTZ: How’d you end up at Merrill Lynch in the 1990s? RITHOLTZ: Right.
I mean, we have a lot of securities laws in this country, not because we’re obsessed with lawmaking, but because some bad stuff happened and we fixed it by making rules about it. RITHOLTZ: And security is a huge one. NADIG: And security is a huge one, knowing your customer is a big one, anti-money laundering. NADIG: Right.
And the advice that he gave to David Einhorn about it that helped lead Einhorn to start really kicking the benchmark’s butt again for the past couple of years. Which is the idea that passive investors hold every security. I found this conversation to be both interesting and surprising.
He has absolutely crushed his benchmark over that period. He’s crushed the Russell 2000, whatever benchmark you want to talk about. And I was a math nerd as a kid. You’re 34th, you’re retiring after 34 years and you trounce what’s really the more appropriate benchmark, I would assume the Russell 2000.
So 00:09:10 [Speaker Changed] I know Orion for many years because from the RIA perspective, from a registered investment advisor perspective, clients want to know how their portfolios are doing, what their performance is, both in absolute terms and relative to benchmarks. And something that Orion’s a big part of. A hundred percent.
Their benchmarks were down. I’m good at math and science and you know, I always had an idea what go into business, but I felt that electrical engineering would be a good foundation. So you come out of Villanova, you end up at first Boston in, in 1987 in the Special Situations Fund and Distressed Securities Group.
So the idea being, you know, that we could analyze, dissect companies anywhere from, you know, senior securities, secured down to distressed. And because remember, Lehman had the Lehman Agg and that was the benchmark. So I think there are 4,800 equities, different securities globally. RITHOLTZ: Is that how you ran R3?
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. So I found myself getting kind of bored with my math problem sets, and then I could shift to philosophy and then go back and forth. And it’s gotten ver like the average active fund has gotten closer and closer to the benchmark over the last five years.
I started out math and, and physics, and in high school I was a rock star in math and physics. You know, where do you want to the duration to be, et cetera, views on the value in certain sectors, views on individual securities, you know, so that’s the raw material that we get. But those guys are great, right?
But if you buy low multiples and sell high multiples, either in a long-only beat the benchmark sense, whether over and underweight, and you did the same thing everyone does and call me a hedge fund manager. And value and momentum do, whether it’s relative outperformance against a benchmark or absolute performance in a hedge fund.
And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that. And I just caught the bug. Become options market makers. You learn the technology.
You’re doing a lot of math in your head on the Fly. I’m doing, I’m doing an awful lot of math in my head on the fly. So, you know, we, we, we got involved and created a benchmark, a commodity indices at the time. And that’s how we created the securities division. We now had the securities business.
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