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But when you look at emerging markets and when you look at value, the opportunity for alpha is much, much greater than it is in traditional large cap growth stocks in the US And a lot of managers in that space actually beat their benchmark. So value, growth and core has outperformed the benchmark or passive strategies over the last decade.
The next question that you alluded to, which is really interesting about revenue and profits, how solid in inflation hedge are equities? Revenues seem to be unaffected, profits have been pretty strong, and companies have shown a pretty solid ability to pass along input cost to the — to ultimately to the consumer. RITHOLTZ: Right.
And this is part of the story I was so fascinated with was why would someone set-up a company where they deliberately turn over all the future profits to the — to the people? BALCHUNAS: … because if you look at any study, the lowest cost active funds beat their benchmarks way more. I run it at a loss. It’s unique.
And the advice that he gave to David Einhorn about it that helped lead Einhorn to start really kicking the benchmark’s butt again for the past couple of years. And so it is important that at least you’re able to entertain that. I found this conversation to be both interesting and surprising. It would go up, it should go up.
And they also have a unique approach to feeds when they’re generating alpha, when they’re outperforming their benchmark, they take a performance fee. Some people look at a casino as entertainment and hey, we’re gonna spend X dollars, pick a number, 500, 2000, whatever it is. For 50 years. This is a step change.
Their benchmarks were down. I had no money back in 87, but certainly, you know, some of the managing directors and other people that had some money, they, they made quite a, quite a bit of of profits on, on some of the left for dead Microsoft and others that were just, you know, sold to very low levels as 00:06:28 [Speaker Changed] Opposed.
He has absolutely crushed his benchmark over that period. He’s crushed the Russell 2000, whatever benchmark you want to talk about. They announced a $640 million loss and ouch. So it leads to the question, what’s the secret to this longstanding outperformance against all benchmarks and, and all passive measures?
In 2015, Bill Gurley at Benchmark was saying Silicon Valley is in a bubble. You’ve seen job losses in goods producing sectors, manufacturing, auto, construction. The AI boom is coming at the right time where you could see wages, profits rising simultaneously where inflation is relatively contained. Let me explain.
And so, you know, it was relatively, I wouldn’t say straightforward because I don’t think generating consistent profits has ever been something that’s so straightforward or so easy. And it’s always going to expect to lose some of those profits when the trend reverses, but still end up capturing the meat of the trend.
As companies mature, with business models delivering profits and reinvestment needs declining, it is not surprising the companies look outward, with acquisitions often entering the equation.
00:11:35 [Speaker Changed] I mean, I couldn’t wish for better shareholding group because with AEOs we got a, a tremendous powerhouse behind us, a very financially profitable organization. And when you’re doing it without it, without it, it the form it is quite a good benchmark. How do you cope with that loss of talent?
And if they make sure that there’s not gonna be massive losses at different tables on the same night, same weekend, same month, over time, they will just, just statistically accrue profits in a, in a more consistent manner. And the actual p and l that you can generate profitloss you can generate is small, valid for that effort.
And, and since then, you, you’ve gone on to do some work reforming L-I-B-O-R as the benchmark for rates. And so you had a situation where you could take big positions in the euro dollar market, affect the price and the cash market and actually make a profit. Starting with what’s keeping you entertained these days?
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