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But when you look at emerging markets and when you look at value, the opportunity for alpha is much, much greater than it is in traditional large cap growth stocks in the US And a lot of managers in that space actually beat their benchmark. And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting.
She has a really fascinating background, very eclectic, a combination of math and law. You, you get a, a BS in Mathematics and a JD from Boston University Math and Law. It is something, math has always come easy to me since a child. I didn’t get an advanced degree in math. Not the usual combination. What happened?
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. What’s been keeping you entertained? I didn’t know what any of these terms meant.
One, one is true and I’ve always said is that I wanted people to stop, ask if I could doing math. And no one asked me if I can do math anymore with a degree from Booth, particularly in econometrics and statistics. So people really ask you, you take French and can you do math. What kept you entertained during the pandemic?
Its index and its benchmark. I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. What’s been keeping you entertained either video or audio? Learn math, learn history. a year, way over both.
They create the benchmark. So when there’s a major turnover like that that happens, you always have the option, “Hey, can you do it exactly on the time that it enters the benchmark? And 87% of our active fixed income funds have outperformed their benchmarks on a three year basis against their benchmarks.
Their benchmarks were down. I’m good at math and science and you know, I always had an idea what go into business, but I felt that electrical engineering would be a good foundation. You know, I, it always, I I see different numbers all the time, so it’s always kinda like, who’s math if you will?
I — I loved math, but really, I was going to go down that literature route more than anything else and — and study Spanish literature. What did you do to entertain them? And so, you know, at face value you think it’s an entertaining story, but there’s a lot of, you know, undercurrents in it. I love statistics.
And they also have a unique approach to feeds when they’re generating alpha, when they’re outperforming their benchmark, they take a performance fee. So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. It’s just math stick to it over long periods of time. The second is excess returns.
So what do you use as a benchmark for the large cap fund? 60% of small cap is indexed versus 50% in large cap and more small cap managers are beating their benchmark than large cap managers. Starting with what’s been keeping you entertained these days? 00:27:54 [Speaker Changed] That, that’s really interesting.
And the advice that he gave to David Einhorn about it that helped lead Einhorn to start really kicking the benchmark’s butt again for the past couple of years. And so it is important that at least you’re able to entertain that. I found this conversation to be both interesting and surprising.
And because remember, Lehman had the Lehman Agg and that was the benchmark. There is above benchmark returns to be generated by active selection of credit quality duration and specific bonds. How are we doing in literacy versus math versus science? There is alpha. Can you manage that through downturns? Where are we?
SEIDES: If the S&P is your benchmark, which it isn’t for these pools of capital. RITHOLTZ: What should be their benchmark? So the proper benchmark for those pools has to look a little bit like the underlying assets they’re investing in. So what do you use for a benchmark? 14, 15% a year? RITHOLTZ: Right.
He has absolutely crushed his benchmark over that period. He’s crushed the Russell 2000, whatever benchmark you want to talk about. And I was a math nerd as a kid. You’re 34th, you’re retiring after 34 years and you trounce what’s really the more appropriate benchmark, I would assume the Russell 2000.
So 00:09:10 [Speaker Changed] I know Orion for many years because from the RIA perspective, from a registered investment advisor perspective, clients want to know how their portfolios are doing, what their performance is, both in absolute terms and relative to benchmarks. And something that Orion’s a big part of. Not too bad then.
And I literally just started putting adjectives and nouns on piece of paper, trying to figure out like how do I describe the work that I think I should be doing, and that hopefully, people find at least entertaining, if not valuable? It seems like an easy one, but there’s a lot of missed benchmarking that goes on. NADIG: Right.
You know, I think of like a Mike Spies or at Sutter Hill, you know, a Martine Cado and Andreessen, you know, Gurley when he was at Benchmark. So here’s the math, Barry. It’s 00:52:47 [Speaker Changed] A tough benchmark to beat. What’s keeping you entertained these days? You all have phones. So terrific.
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. So I found myself getting kind of bored with my math problem sets, and then I could shift to philosophy and then go back and forth. And it’s gotten ver like the average active fund has gotten closer and closer to the benchmark over the last five years.
I started out math and, and physics, and in high school I was a rock star in math and physics. They take a benchmark in that case, the aggregate index is by bar the, the most common one used. Let, let’s allow you to do more and have a wider degree of risk and off benchmark in your sector. That was one aspect of it.
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